Should be interesting to see how things go down this time. In particular, I’m curious as to whether or not the sexual misconduct allegations against Cain come up. Romney mentioned something recently about these things being “very serious,” so I’m wondering if he’s going to use them as an opportunity to come out on the offensive.
On a personal note, I have to get the boy from school at 9 and cook dinner while I’m watching this, so coverage is going to be a bit on the spotty side. Sorry about that, folks.
Let’s do it.
Shortest. Live. Blog. Ever.
Apparently CNBC decided they weren’t going to stream the debate.
Oh, crap. That was a false ending. Who wrote this speech? Peter Jackson?
Looks like he’s ending on a “praise the military” note again. Well played.
Biden keeps looking at his hands! IS HE ON A SMART PHONE?
Hrmmm…Hillary didn’t look like she cared for the “no options off the table” comment about Iran.
Didn’t President Bush make the same “up or down vote” request of a Democratic majority?
Wait, what? You mean elected officials shouldn’t be able to own stocks in industries they regulate?
Tom Coburn is like “Dude, what?! Leave me out of this crap!”
Ugh. He said “fair share” again. #drink
You don’t think the President is pointing out that whole tax rate thing because of Mitt’s return, do ya? #naaaahhh
“No side issues. No drama.” Oh, Mr. President. You’re so cute.
Boehner grudgingly applauds calls not to raise the payroll tax again.
Yeahhh…No Republican applause on Richard Cordray. Not a big shocker there. #sourgrapes
Obama says he won’t go back on Dodd-Frank or the Affordable Care Act.
Wooooow. That was a REALLY bad joke.
As a homeowner who is seriously underwater on his mortgage and paying 6.75% interest I’d really like for that refinancing thing to go through.
“Do some nation building right here at home.” Yet another novel concept!
Actually, the easiest way to save money is to not spend it, Mr. Presdient. I mean…technically speaking.
Stop subsidizing big oil? More crazy talk!
Umm…Mr. President? Not sure you want the Government to take credit for frakking. #justsayin
And another promise from another President to lessen our dependence on foreign oil. #believeitwheniseeit
POTUS reminds everyone that the internet was basically created by the Government. Kinda counters that whole “government can’t innovate” thing.
“Women should earn equal pay for equal work.” Well…yeah. I thought that was pretty well accepted as the right thing.
How many Presidents have promised to do something about illegal immigration during this address?
“If you can’t stop tuition from going up, the funding you get from taxpayers will go down.” How will that help students?
Huh. The President wants to require that all states force kids to stay in high school until they graduate or turn 18.
“Stop teaching to the test.” YES. YES. THAT.
Thank you, Mr. President, for reminding the nation that Teachers are freakin’ important.
Er…I didn’t know that getting an education was that hard.
Ooo…The President is promoting education. That’s crazy talk!
Sounds like maybe Obama wants to try and find better ways to do what SOPA and PIPA were supposed to do.
That’s a lot of tax cuts, Mr. President. Republicans like tax cuts, right?
I really, really wish that Obama would stop using the term “fair share.” It’s a lightning rod for the right.
Obama is taking credit for the recovery of the auto industry. That’s a good thing for sure, but it was a circumvention of the Free Market.
Mr. President, I love how you’re sounding all full of conviction. Where has that been the last three years?
Eric Cantor applauds the fact that 3 million jobs have been created. Boehner? Not so much. Boehner apparently hates jobs.
Boehner almost forgot to clap dis-affectedly for that last statement.
Obama says the most important issue of our time is to keep the American Dream alive. Subtle nod to his “rags to riches” story.
Start off by praising the armed forces and the accomplishments they made in 2011. “Imagine what we could accomplish if we followed their example.”
Yay Gabby Giffords!
Wow. Boehner already looks like he smelled a fart and Obama hasn’t started talking. Must be Biden.
Just tuned into the pre-show at whitehouse.gov. There was video of the first lady and Desmond Tutu doing pushups. PAUSE.
Whelp. Debate is over. I’ll be back tomorrow night to cover the State of the Union. I’m sure you’re excited.
Gonna have to agree with my Twitter buddy from across the aisle @BXGD. Good showing for Romney.
Brian Wilson says “Go Bulls.” Best audience reaction of the night.
Newt – “Don’t be for me. Be with me. I have an open candidacy.” #hesaiditwithhiseyes
Holy crap. ANOTHER nod to Bondi?
“I have a record. You should look at my record. It has ALL FOUR BEATLES ON IT.” – Romney #oknotreally #wouldbebetter
“Conservative means smaller Government and more liberty.” – Ron Paul. Says Gov should get out of our personal lives.
Dude. Romney and Santorum are both sucking up to Pam Bondi. What the hell?
OBAMA CRUSHES FREEDOM.
Apparently raising a family promotes Conservatism. Shit. I’m a Conservative!
The Republican Party has a soul? #cheapshot
Annnnnd Gingrich falls back on Dodd-Frank criticism. Wow.
“If tax cuts create jobs, why didn’t the Bush tax cuts work.” THANK YOU FOR FINALLY ASKING THAT QUESTION.
Romney says that Obama doesn’t have a mission or vision for NASA. Bush did, though! Get to Mars! Oh….wait…
Ron Paul makes the only valid point about the Schaivo case. Have a Living Will. Can we move on now?
You know what the Terry Schaivo issue begat? Glenn Freakin’ Beck.
A Terry Schaivo question? Wooow. Kickin’ it old school.
If these candidates are supposed to demonstrate that they understand Florida issues they are all failing miserably.
Romney says that EVERYTHING Obama has done has made it harder for people in Florida. #thoughtIlivedinFlorida
“Get rid of subsidies and let the market work.” – Romney. A point I agree on!
Gingrich seems almost giddy over getting questions over the sugar subsidies.
“We’d have a card that shows that people are here legally.” – Romney. You mean…like….a…Green card?
Gingrich says it’s ok to break the law if you serve in the military, but not if you go to college. Got it.
Umm…Did Romney just say “they no speak English?”
“Our kids were being taught in foreign languages in our own schools.” – Romney. THE HORROR.
“Why is it ok for you to court voters in Spanish, but not ok for the government to offer services to those same people?” OH SNAP.
Santorum claims that tankers are the oil spill problem. Deepwater Horizon? Not a tanker.
Santorum is dodging the question, but if you listen to what he’s saying? Offshore Drilling all over the Gulf.
Yessss…Offshore oil drilling questions. This should be fun.
Santorum is again claiming that a Theocracy is bad. The irony, it burns. #familyfaithvalues
Santorum stares at Brian Wilson like the question he’s asking is completely ludicrous.
Tonight’s debate is brought to you by Cigar City Jai Alai IPA.
Break number two. Time to get out the beer.
President Obama just yelled “O RLY?!?!” at his TV screen.
“Gov. Romney, how do you end a war in Afghanistan without talking to the Taliban.” “By beating them.”
Everyone keeps saying we’ve been at war for 10 years. Did I miss Congress passing a Declaration of War?
“Our Navy is now smaller than it was in 1917.” – Romney..But, umm…still bigger than everyone else’s?
Santorum says that Cuba will become a launching pad for Jihadists.
“We don’t have to use force and intimidation and overthrow governments.” Equates that kind of policy to the Dark Ages.
How long has Castro been in power now???
Gingrich says that Obama is a fault for not starting a “Cuban Spring.” Buh what?
Romney thinks you should thank mythical sky wizards when people you don’t like die.
Seriously, what the hell? Are they really trying to make the case that Dodd-Frank caused the economic problems we’re having?
Dodd-Frank was passed in 2010. The economy tanked in 2008. Sorry, Newt. You can’t blame Dodd-Frank.
Santorum thinks you should be able to deduct losses from the sale of an underwater house. Not a bad idea, really.
30 minutes in and Brian Williams completely loses control of the debate.
Newt tries to draw a comparison between Romney working for Bain and his working for Freddie Mac. That’s a bridge too far, Newty.
Romney pretty effectively calls bullcrap on Newt’s claims to have not been a lobbyist for Freddie Mac.
Newt is trying to fall back on the “nasty politics” defense to combat lobbyist claims.
(That stance being that Capitalism was circumvented by the bailouts and the market should have been left to deal with the problems that TARP “solved.”)
GAH. Santorum takes a stance that I agree with. Now I have Santorum all over me.
Romney says he didn’t inherit his money, but if he’s trying to pretend he started on the same grounds as folks like you and me he’s full of crap.
Romney makes it clear that he won’t release the tax returns from his years at Bain Capital.
I like the fact that Brian Williams keeps trying to get the candidates to actually answer the question he’s asked. #crazy
Romney says there isn’t going to be anything newsworthy in his tax returns. Diverts question to talking about taxes of the American people.
Gingrich slips in a reminder that he was endorsed by Rick Perry.
Brian Williams trying to pin Ron Paul down on whether he will run as a third-party candidate.
Santorum says he was a Conservative before it was cool to be a Conservative. #hipsterPolitician
Oh, snap. Brian just totally cut Romney off.
Gingrich says he left office because the Democrats trumped up ethics charges against him.
This is how I watch debates.
“I’m not going to spend the evening chasing Governor Romney’s misinformation.” Says he’s not going to “waste time” on rebutting and will set up a web site by tomorrow morning with all the “facts.”
Huh. Romney says “he had to resign in disgrace” twice in a minute. Think he’s got a point to make?
Brian Williams is explaining the rules. Like anyone is going to pay attention to them.
Nice opening shot of the USF campus.
Question – If my birth state votes for Santorum can I apply to legally have my birth certificate moved somewhere else?
Ok. Debate is over. Let’s see how South Carolina decides to handle things from here.
Santorum thinks he’s the only person who can beat Obama because of his firm stance on social issues. Only if Democrats decide to stay home that day, Ricky.
Romney says that if he’s President he will stand up against President Obama. Wait…what?
Gingrich says that Obama is the most dangerous President of our lifetime.
Ron Paul says the debt problem is the biggest problem facing our nation and points out it wasn’t even talked about tonight.
“Abortion is a violent act.” – Ron Paul. Also says his policies would repeal Roe vs. Wade overnight.
“Just for the record I wasn’t even thinking of you when I gave my statement, so you’re overly sensitive.” – Ron Paul (to Rick Santorum)
Paul says that the abortion issue is a morality issue. Implying that those who support abortion are immoral.
Wow. The crowd refuses to let John King move on without giving Ron Paul a chance to weigh in on abortion.
Santorum says that because Romney didn’t insist that anti-abortion language was in Romneycare he supported abortion…because he should have known better.
Oooo…Romney getting all pissy with Gingrich questioning his integrity over the abortion issue.
Gingrich promises to issue an Executive Order on day one to stop the lawsuits against the states with tough immigration laws.
Ron Paul says the way to fix the immigration issue is to address the reason why people are compelled to come here illegally in the first place. Shocking.
Romney diverts immigration question by mentioning China, then says he can fix the problem by building a fence. There’s some irony there. See = Huns.
Gingrich would create a national verification system and turn it over to private enterprise because the government cannot possibly control such a thing without it becoming corrupt. You know…Because corporations are such bastions of integrity.
Gingrich says he can have the border under control by January of 2014. Also says he’d pass legislation to make English the official language of the United States.
Ron Paul says he wouldn’t change anything either. As the most consistent candidate that makes sense.
Santorum wouldn’t change a thing. Not a single, petulant, pissy, annoying thing.
Romney – “I’d work harder to get 25 more votes in Iowa.” Proceeds to express “regret” over spending time on other candidates over criticizing Obama.
Gingrich says if he could do anything over he’d have run the campaign “his way” from the start.
Actually, Senator Santorum, I can be more specific than that. It came from Zombocom.
Santorum asks where the idea that “anything goes” on the internet came from. How about…umm…the last 40 years?
Two debates in a twenty-four hour window. I think I may go a bit insane. I’m going to now continue with my previous plans of cooking all day, doing some laundry, drinking delicious home roasted coffee, and generally not fretting about the fact that there are some bugnutty people who want to be the President of my beloved country.
People wonder why Ron Paul has a hard time catching on outside of his base? I make a comment pointing out that Ron Paul make a politically dangerous statement by speaking out against group rights, and I get jumped on by JJEmmans for being a “sheep.” Note, I didn’t say I disagreed with Ron Paul. I implied that his statement is not one that will play well with the mainstream. Ron Paul supporters pride themselves on being devoted to the truth, but they apparently don’t like it when someone points out the truth to them. Equality is an emotional issue, and you can talk about how liberty is liberty all you want but people who are on the other side of it are going to have a hard time hearing what you say due to preconceived notions about injustice. This is a simple fact, and your belief doesn’t change it. I’m not even saying Ron Paul needs to change his message! I’m just saying it’s a hard sell.
So, yeah. Stop being assholes, Ron Paul supporters. You’re scaring off the normal people.
Santorum going back to his argument that the biggest problem in our country is the break down of the American family. That is, to borrow a phrase, Bullshit!
The man who is anti-theocracy is on record saying “God has given us this great country to allow his people — to allow his people to be free, has given us that dignity because we are a creation of his, and we need to honor that creation. And whether it’s the sanctity of life in the womb or the dignity of every working person in America to fulfill their potential, you will have a friend in Rick Santorum.”
Catholic Santorum says that Iran is a theocracy led by people who believe that the afterlife is better than this life. Ummm….
Huntsman again making the trust argument. Says he will attack the “trust deficit.”
Ron Paul making the case that Gay/Women’s/Minority rights are wrong. Says rights are rights. I understand his point, but it’s a politically dangerous thing to say.
“Entitlements are not Rights.” – Ron Paul
“When you voted for the Prescription Drug Expansion, were you advancing Socalism?” – Question to Santorum. Amazingly, he doesn’t really answer.
Perry asked if he believes that Obama wants what is best for the country. Perry dodges and says the Founding Fathers wouldn’t want a Socialist president.
“In Massachusetts we receive a lot of air from the rest of the country.” – Romney. Dang…they have to import air?
Another commercial break and David Gregory staring at me with his “you internet watchers are freeloaders” eyes.
The only thing Santorum didn’t do in his last answer was say “I have gay friends.”
Apparently Santorum thinks the way he’s spoken about homosexuality is “treating people with respect and dignity.”
“When is the last time you stood up and spoke for increasing gay rights?” “Right now.” – Romney. Well played.
Romney arguing that all federal aid programs should be kicked back to the states.
Ron Paul gets asked if he supports subsidies. Kind of a silly question to ask Ron Paul, really.
Perry making the argument that he’s the only real Conservative option. Pushing the balanced budget amendment.
There’s a woman who is asleep directly behind David Gregory. Trying to get a screen shot.
Huntsman is again making the case that he’s the only candidate you can trust. Pushing term limits on Congress.
Santorum is saying that Paul operates on the fringe. Pot, meet kettle.
Huntsman is again making the case for reforming the tax code.
Perry dodging that question was lame. It was a good question.
Perry jokes about the three departments blunder he had before. Commentator – “Is that your final answer?”
Gingrich making the case that he can improve the Government and save money without causing pain to Americans.
Oh, snap. “This nation is divided, David, because of attitudes like that.” Huntsman fires back at Romney over last night.
Rick Perry is making a desperate lunge for the Tea Party vote…As if it’s still relevant.
Ron Paul points out that a lot of time is spent on the debates talking about unimportant issues.
Dang, yo. This debate is already uglier than last night.
Commentator just said that if you rip open Ron Paul’s suit you’d find one of the Romney boys operating him as a puppet.
Ron Paul, on the other hand, was probably telling the absolute truth by saying that he’d be reading a book on economics.
UGH. Huntsman gave a total bullshit/pandering answer to the Saturday night question. What a lame way to end the debate.
Apparently a happening Saturday night in the Perry household involves the shooting range.
ABC just pointed out that there have been 62,000 Tweets about the debate. That’s pretty damn cool.
Wow. Commentators just said that Romney’s attack on Huntsman was like using a hammer on a gnat.
Romney just attacked Huntsman for serving under Obama as Ambassador to China. What an irrelevant, dickish thing to say.
“I understand how the economy works because I’ve lived in it.” – Romney. That’s pretty much the same thing as claiming that you know how cars work because you drive one.
“There are no classes in America.”- Santorum. Middle income is ok. Middle class is divisive. Ok. Suuuure.
“We have the right in this country to pursue happiness as we choose.” – Romney. Unless, you know, being happy means marrying someone of the same sex.
“I know you wanna ask that question, but I’m gonna just talk for a minute about the soul of America.”
They finally tossed it back to Huntsman to finish his answer…I don’t think anyone knows what the question was.
The moderators have completely lost control at this point. Perry just grabbed the conch and is going off on a tear.
Whoop! Ron Paul is going after the Fed! DRINK!
…and Huntsman is pretty clearly pissed about it.
Stephanopoulous interrupts Huntsman to ask a question to the whole panel and lets Santorum go off on a tear. WTF?
You know what makes watching debates better? Pudding. Pistachio pudding, to be exact.
Santorum tells a HUGE bold-faced lie claiming that Obama said the elections in Iran were legitimate. Obama said the exact opposite.
“Yes, the President is the Commander-In-Chief, but he’s not the King. That’s why we fought a revolution.” – Ron Paul
Gingrich makes the absolutely correct argument that to win in the Middle East we need to get rid of our dependence on foreign oil. I agree, but I disagree with him on how we get there.
“I would send troops back into Iraq.” – Rick Perry. Even though, you know, they told us to leave?
Gingrich thinks we should be treating the Middle East like we did the Russians during the Cold War. I’d like to see him elaborate on that. How do you fight terrorists like you fight a standing army?
“I don’t want to be the President that invests another penny in a civil war.” – John Huntsman on Afghanistan
Apparently respecting the Establishment clause of the Constitution is a War on Religion in Rick Perry’s eyes.
Here comes Perry with claims that the Obama administration is waging a War on Christianity.
“There’s a lot more anti-Christian bigotry out there today than there is from the other side.” – Gingrich. What other side, Newt???
Romney re-states the inaccurate “fact” that children are better off being raised by a man and woman.
Santorum advocates a Constitutional amendment defining marriage as between a man and woman, and states that existing marriages would be void as a result.
“I still support the death penalty.” – Rick Santorum in 2005.
“I don’t believe we have the right, in the Constitution, to take a human life.” – Santorum. What’s his stance on the death penalty?
“States don’t WANT to ban contraception, so why would we put that in the Constitution?” – Romney
Romney just handed Stephanopolis his ass over a pretty silly hypothetical question.
Maybe I read his body language wrong, but Gingrich looked like he was pretty pissed off at Ron Paul.
Ron Paul diverts questions about the racist newsletter by talking about the racial disparity issues in the judicial system.
“I’m trying to stop the wars, but at least I went when they called me up.” – Ron Paul
Gingrich implies that being an Army brat is somehow comparable to having served in the military.
And here comes the old Republican “Democrats put freedom at risk” charge.
Huntsman just said “everybody knows” so many times that this song is now stuck in my head
Rick Perry comes in after Santorum and Paul tear into each other and opens with “You just say an example of why I got into this race.” Well played, Perry.
Santorum wins for being the first candidate to ignore the agreed-upon debate rules. Shocking, that.
“I’m not a policy guy, I’m a cause guy.” – Rick Santorum
It’s great to see the Republican double-talk in regards to economic recovery is consistent. Bill Clinton didn’t get any credit for the economic growth that happened during his Presidency, and now they want to say that the recovery we’re seeing during the Obama administration is in spite of, and not because of, Obama’s leadership.
Romney says that the New York Times put Free Enterprise on trial for writing a story about how Bain bought a company, gutted it, and caused 1700 people to lose their jobs.
Santorum is making points I agree with already. The President is NOT supposed to be a CEO. Government is not a business.
Diane Sawyer is already reminding the candidates that they agreed on the rules of the debate. We’ll see how long it takes for someone to break them.
Mitt-mentum? Really, folks? Are we at the point where we’re making celebrity style nicknames for our candidates? Too bad we’re just doing it now. We could have had McCalin vs. O’Biden back in 2008.
And that’s that. I’d stick around to watch the commentary after, but the guy they have talking right now is already falling all over himself to talk about how phenomenal the debate was. Hope the dude remembered to put on his knee pads.
Glad I’m out of beer. If I’d been drinking every time someone said Reagan over the last 3 minutes I’d be falling out of my chair about now.
Audience member starts yelling something. Couldn’t hear what he said.
Oh, snap. Bachmann is pissed. Points out that Gingrich keeps claiming that her facts are wrong. Intimates that he doesn’t treat her as a viable candidate.
Bachmann is stating that the abortion issue is one of the “core” issues of the Republican party.
Chris Wallace is hammering Romney on the fact that his politics sway with the polls.
“Gov. Huntsman, that’s time.” “Well let me just get this second point in.”
“How are you going to rebuild a military when you have no money?” – Ron Paul
“We know without a shadow of a doubt that Iran will use a nuclear weapon to take out our ally, Israel, and to use it against the United States.” – Michelle Bachmann
“They don’t hate us because of what we do or the policies we have. They hate us because of who we are.” – Rick Santorum, talking about the Middle East (and being completely wrong)
“We have 12,000 diplomats in our services…We should try diplomacy every once in a while.” – Ron Paul
“What did we do with Libya? We talked him out of his nuclear weapons…and then we killed him.” – Ron Paul
“I fear that (Iran is) another Iraq coming. It’s war propaganda going on.” – Ron Paul
FOX News commentators are indicating that all the campaign consultants get together and coordinate attacks to the leading candidate. Scary thought.
Paul doesn’t pick any. Bachmann goes with all the Conservatives. Huntsman goes with Roberts and Alito.
Shockingly enough Perry, Romney, and Gingrich name all four Conservative justices as the favorite.
Oh, hey…Santorum is back to ignoring questions and saying what he wants to when given the chance. Favorite justice is Thomas.
“If you get too careless about abolishing courts that can open up a can of worms.” – Ron Paul
Gingrich states that if Federal judges rule against “Under God” they should be removed from office because they are “dictatorial.”
“The President thinks our economy is in decline. It is if he’s President. It’s not if I’m President.” – Romney
Santorum pledges to repeal every single Obama regulation.
Hey! It’s John Huntsman! He kinda looks like he’s smelling a fart.
Paul says that the reason he’d be a good President is because he doesn’t want the power.
Neil Cavuto is asking Ron Paul about earmarks. Correctly points out that it’s hypocritical that he rallies against government spending while taking them. Paul seems to indicate that he’s kind of obligated to, but politicians like Clare McCaskill don’t, sooo…
Reagan reference! DRINK!
Gah. Bachmann points out that there’s a big difference between Freddie/Fannie and credit unions. She’s made me agree with her!
Gingrich mentions credit unions and co-ops again, but he implies that they are Government Sponsored Enterprises. I’m not sure I agree with that.
Whoa…Did Gingrich just promote Credit Unions and co-ops? Did I hear that correctly?
I’m back, but the live stream is being horribly laggy.
Whelp. Apparently the boy is done with his show already, so I’m off to pick him up. I’m not sure I’ll miss much.
“Anybody up here could probably beat Obama.” – Ron Paul. And with that Mr. Paul joins the ranks of the lunatic fringe. Cuz if he things Santorum could be Obama….
Yes! We start right off with a Reagan comparison! DRINK!
Commentators are pointing out how much of a mistake the ,000 bet offer was. I agree. That was a HUGE flub on Romney’s part.
And Bachmann brings up 9-9-9 again. For someone who attacked that plan as much as she did that’s pretty shitty. Oh, and DRINK.
“If we all take the same oath of office we shouldn’t be fighting in Washington.”
“If we do survive.” Jebus, Newt. Apocalyptic much???
Romney points out that Ron Paul has the most devoted supporters.
I really appreciate the number of debate moderators that try and get all the candidates to be nice to each other.
And I’m back. What did I miss?
Damn. Gotta go pick up the boy and I’d really like to see this “financial struggle” question.
So Perry thinks we should have gone into Iran to retrieve or destroy the drone after it crashed?
“You have to speak the truth, but you have to do so with prudence.” Dude. Seriously. Who is this guy and what did he do to the Santorum I’ve grown to loathe?
Gingrich comes back and says that the world needs a President that isn’t afraid to tell the truth. Evokes Reagan. DRINK.
“Israel needs someone who talks like a President, not like a Historian.” – Romney
Gingrich is refusing to back down on his stance on Palestine. “These people are terrorists, and they teach terrorism in their schools.”
Here comes the “invented people” question.
“If this country would simply enforce the laws that are already on the book…We’ll have a substantial smaller number of people to have this debate about.” Perry sums up the immigration issue perfectly.
Ugh. These immigration questions make me nuts. Talk about wasting time and energy on a non-issue. Might as well debate the “war on Christmas.”
Ok, this whole fidelity thing is really dirty pool. Let’s let everyone talk about fidelity and leave Gingrich to talk about it last because he’s the one under fire for this. Gingrich handles it well. Says he’s delighted that people are willing to look at his record and who he is.
Romney is lying again by saying that his recent faith based ads are a response to Obama. Seriously, Mitt?
Paul correctly points out that character issues should so through by actions and that things like marital fidelity shouldn’t be subjects of debate. I agree.
Santorum is being calm, rational, and reasonable sounding tonight. I still don’t like him, but this is much better than the shrill, whiny douche that he’s been in previous debates.
Oh, dang. Perry says that if you cheat on your wife you’ll cheat on your business partner. Here come the Gingrich attacks.
Oh, dang. Commentary online during the break – “Rick Perry, if he was a better candidate, could have taken advantage of that.” (Talking about the anger against Wall Street)
Oh, joy. They are going to talk about Faith and Family values. Head exploding on my part will commence shortly.
Santorum pointing out that he doesn’t flip-flop on issues. He’s right. He’s always a douchebag.
Romney offers to bet Perry ,000 that no edition of his book has ever stated that he believed the Massachusetts plan should be the plan for the nation. Perry doesn’t take the bait.
Romney is prepared for the ObamaCare comparisons these days and is more than ready to point out where what they did in Massachusetts was different.
Between “Win Win Win” and “Newt/Romney” it’s clear that Bachmann is trying to create some buzz words that are associated with her.
“I’m 55 years old and I’ve spent 50 years in the real world as a business person.” Bachmann started working when she was 5???
Paul points out that, of all the candidates, he’s the one that has remained the most consistent on the issues.
Romney is kinda starting to freak me out. His facial expressions, movements, and skin all look unreal. Is there any chance we’re dealing with a RomneyBot here?
Gingrich is dead on about space exploration.
Ooompa Loompa Doompity Do. I’m on this stage showing off for you. Ooompa Loompa Doopity Dee. If you are wise you’ll vote for me.
Wow. Umm…Folks? I think the end times are here. I agree completely with that Santorum just said about the payroll tax cut.
Something that really kind of irks me about this whole Payroll tax issue. Democrats have taken something out of the Republican playbook and claim that allowing temporary tax relief to expire is raising taxes.
Oooo…Diane Sawyer points out that Romney is the only one that actually answered the question she asked. It would be awesome if she did that all night.
Cain isn’t around to be a target so Bachmann brings up “9-9-9” in her first answer. I think that counts, folks. DRINK.
Perry is attacking the connection between Washington and Wall Street. He’s also talking about himself in the third person again.
Holy crap! Romney is orange tonight. Has he been hanging out with Boehner?
Class warfare! Drink!!
Diane Sawyer kicking off by saluting the candidates for running. That’s a fair cop. I certainly wouldn’t want my life gone over as thoroughly as it would be if I was really running.
The gallery should be showing up on the master post now. http://bit.ly/vWm6xJ
And finally a gallery of images to wrap up the day. I had a blast, and I really hope I get to go back for the actual convention.
Time for me to bail. It is just fattening food and booze at this point. Foot is in the door for the convention in August.
Convention center isn’t serving any local beers to the out-of-town press. Really?
Found the one food station at the reception that had vegetarian food. Republicans like their animal flesh.
“We’re gonna have a lot of fun with the Democcrats in Charlotte (during their convention)” RNC Chair
“Where are your office spaces going to be here?” “Away from yours!”
There is a very cranky dude from Reuters sitting next to me. He kinda looks like Moe Howard.
Out-of-town reporter just asked if anything was going to be done to dress up the “drab” buildings in the area.
Just had a lovely conversation with someone from DC about Florida politics. I am sorry to report that other states really do laugh at us as much as we are afraid that they do.
Killing time now while waiting for the next event to start at 5:45. Too many tempting sweets around.
Shutting down now while we tour. We are regrouping at 5:45 at the convention center.
Ahhh. I understand the earlier question now. They are concerned that they are going to have to go through two security check points when traveling between the convention center and the forum. Looks like that is going to be the case.
Question was just asked about whether or not there was going to be a “secure” walkway between the two venues. The person asking was concerned about having to go “double mag.” Not sure what he meant at all, but the answer caused some grumbles from the crowd.
Q&A with the press starting now.
Ryan Price is speaking now. More logistics being talked about.
Wow. They have reserved 15,000 hotel rooms in the area for the convention. Guess you can’t argue about the amount of money the convention is going to bring to the area.
Julie Shugar, Director of Media Operations, is now up. Not much going on at this point that’s relevant to general politics, but it’s interesting to see the nuts and bolts of an event like this. Apparently they are going to be building a covered walkway between the Forum and the Convention Center where one doesn’t exist now. They are going into specifics on credentials now. Apparently the Media committee is handling the credentials for Independent Bloggers like myself.
Specifics about media rules and accommodations are now being presented.
“The General Staff of these two facilities (St. Pete Times Forum, Tampa Convention Center)…Have the most aggressively cooperative staffs that I’ve ever worked with.”
Bill Harris promising that this convention will be “new and different.” Says his staff is dragging him “kicking and screaming” into the modern world (technology-wise).
Bill Harris, CEO of the convention committee, is taking the lectern now.
“We will have a convention worthy of our nominee, and worthy of the next President of the United States.”
Reince Priebus is speaking now. Giving big props to the Tampa Bay area for helping to facilitate the convention. “Tampa Bay is an exceptional host community.”
Chairman of the Republican National Committee is here. Wasn’t quite expecting that.
Hrm. Some NBC/CBS trash talking going on. I’m caught in the middle!
Geeze Louise. They just used some massive air horn that they use during hockey games to get our attention. We’re all awake now!
Think this should fix it.
This is a test, yo.
And the boy just sent the “come get me text.” No more debate for me.
Perry seems to have decided that attacking Romney is an unwise mood. Glad to see it. I’d much rather see the candidates acting like Statesmen and women instead of bickering children.
So…Governor Perry thinks that every regulation should be reviewed. I like that plan! So does President Obama, since that’s what he’s been doing.
Oh, wow. Commercials. I kinda forgot about those.
Bachmann again emphasizes the fact that she will raise taxes on 47% of the American people.
“What is the media misreporting about the economy?” – Newt turns question to the media not asking Occupy Wall Street people about how their actions will impact the economy.
Jim Kramer seems like he’s having a hard time keeping a straight face while he’s asking these questions.
Herman Cain is right about one thing – Bill Clinton proved that accusations of sexual misconduct really don’t matter to the American public if you’re getting the job done. That said…Man, this audience didn’t want anything to do with those questions.
Ooo…got a European stream just in time to see Herman Cain get the “sexual misconduct” question.
Oh, wait – One additional comment. Mr. Gingrich? Your proposition of 7, 3 hour long debates could quite possibly get me killed.
Ok…That’s it for the Live Stream. Thanks for indulging me…Or not pointing out that you’ve blocked me. 🙂
“Maximizing bickering is not the road to the White House.” – Newt Gingrich. Yep. I agree with you on that one, Newt.
Rick Santorum won an election against James Carville and Paul Begala? #CNNDebate #saywhat
One of my Uncles got annoyed with me over the Twitter to Facebook cross posts. Pssh. I broke that shit like an hour ago.
I gotta say…I don’t like the man all that much, but Newt is looking the most “Presidential” up there this evening.
“I would cut ALL foreign aid. I would treat everyone equally and fairly.” – Ron Paul (in response to whether he would cut financial aid to Israel)
Breaking news – Santorum just said something I agreed with (re: politicians being more concerned with political objectives over real success)
And, surprisingly enough, I agree with the “crazy Mormon” on his views in regards to religion and politics.
“How can you have judgement if you have no faith? How can I trust you with Power if you don’t pray?” – Newt Gingrich. America, ladies and gentlemen.
Oh, Flying Spaghetti Monster save me. The Faith question is being discussed now. The issue that makes me not want to vote for any of them.
Whoo hoo! Break!
“If you had to give money out you should have given it to the people who couldn’t pay their mortgages, not the banks.” – Ron Paul
Mr. Cain, the Occupy Wall Street crowd isn’t in front of the White House because they are protesting the people who control the White House.
Question about Occupy Wall Street. This should be fun. #ows #CNNDebate
There aren’t enough commercial breaks in this debate for me to actually get a beer. This is not fair. #CNNDebate
Err…That was “You get to ASK the questions” earlier…
And Santorum starts going off about how family, faith, and values will save the country.
“You get to answer the questions, I get to answer however I want to.” Are we just watching Rick Perry implode on live television? #CNNDebate
Wow. The audience SERIOUSLY turned on Perry just now. He needs to step off on attacking Romney over the “hiring illegals” thing with the quickness.
#CNNDebate What the heck, A.C.? You don’t let Bachmann talk when she’s referred to in a comment but you let Romney go off for no reason?
This is what Perry is referring to as far as Romney hiring illegal immigrants – http://huff.to/ncBFZ4
“I thought Republicans followed rules?” – Anderson Cooper
Santorum talks over Romney as he tries to reply…Then points out that Romney has run out of time. What an asshole. #CNNDebate
Ugh…Perry dodges the question just to get out a prepared speech. Lame. #CNNDebate
Wait…I thought Republicans were anti-tax. Bachmann just said she would “absolutely” raise taxes on the Americans who currently “pay no taxes”
You know…I expected Cain to take attacks on his plan tonight, but I didn’t expect A.C. to let every candidate on the stage savage him.
Perry refers to Cain as “brother” several times in his comments. Wonder if he calls anyone else on stage “brother” or “sister”?
Santorum says that if Cain’s plan passes birth rates will go down. I’m trying to figure out why, exactly, that’s a bad thing.
Oh, Anderson. Cain is going to mention 9-9-9 enough tonight. Did you have to do so as well? #CNNDebate
Damn. Did ya’ll see that stone cold glare Perry just gave after his opening statement? He’s the Perrynator!
Holy Crap! The Phantom is singing the National Anthem? … Awww, man. He’s not in costume. That would have been awesome.
Huh, ok. That must have actually been a live feed with Huntsman. Wonder why he isn’t at the debate?
#cnndebate Is Huntsman not going to be at the debate tonight? CNN is apparently showing a Live Stream of him in New Hampshire.
And that’s a wrap. I’d say Romney came out looking great. Perry didn’t do much to help himself. I think he’s pretty much done at this point. It’s going to come down to Cain and Romney.
I’d give anything if Robert DeNiro appeared behind Rick Santorum with a baseball bat right about now.
Ugh. This final question is horrid. Let’s listen to all of the candidates give their sob stories and prove how they are just “one of us.”
What’s being yelled from the crowd?
“The reason we have this many people living in poverty is because we have a President in office who is a job killer.” Wait…what? The question was about the wealth gap that has appeared over the last 30 years…Oh, and now Santorum says that the reason there is a wealth gap is because of the breakdown of the American family.
Karen Tumulty. I like this woman.
Cain says that his comments about people who aren’t rich have chosen not to be was only directed at Wall Street protestors. Everyone else? Just bad luck, clearly. Good thing we have all the lazy people in one place, huh Herman?
Yep. Romney is absolutely playing the middle. He just said that President Obama is “well meaning” but “in over his head.”
Ron Paul is like a kid at Christmas. Cain gave him the perfect gift of mentioning Greenspan.
Ron Paul and Rick Santorum want to attack Cain over his love of Alan Greenspan so desperately. OH…She’s giving Paul a chance to respond.
Every time Santorum speaks I just want to rub his face in a big puddle of Santorum.
Romney punts on taking the opportunity to go on attack. Gives Bachmann (who has no chance to win) an opportunity to expand on her idea. Between that, his appeals to the middle class, and talking about how he cares for children he is seriously playing to the middle. He’s not going for the extremist vote tonight, and it’s obviously. Amusingly enough? It’s working (on me). He looks much more appealing when he isn’t on the attack.
“I’m not worried about rich people. They are doing just fine.” – Romney. I’ll be damned. Romney can actually say things that make sense.
Not literally. Although that would have been awesome.
Oh, damn. Cain just body slammed Romney.
And now the candidates can question each other – ON THE ECONOMY. Yeah, that’s gonna happen.
This debate has devolved into shouting and seeing who can talk louder than anyone else. Honestly, as much as I hate to say it, Huntsman, Paul and (shiver) Bachmann are the only ones acting with the kind of decorum one expects of the leader of the free world.
“I’ve only been able to answer one question, Charlie.” That’s because you’re a petulant assclown, a horrible diplomat, and you always look like you’re about to cry.
“I want to go to war with China.” – Rick Santorum. Yeah, ok…that’s who we want to be our President.
“On day one I will identify China as a currency manipulator.” Translation – “On day one, I will pass an executive order that will alienate the single largest holder of US Treasury Bonds and the biggest importer of cheap products we’ve grown used to as a country.”
Perry looks kinda pissed that he isn’t getting more questions.
“The problem with that analysis is that it’s wrong.” Oh, well…Ok.
So…Reagan was always right…Except for when what he said back then doesn’t agree with what we’re saying now. Gotcha.
Quote on the screen behind the candidates – “A typical vice of American politics is the avoidance of saying anything real on real issues.” (Theodore Roosevelt)
Blame easy credit. Blame Fannie and Freddie. Whatever you do, don’t blame the lenders that lied on loan applications to help people get mortgages they new the borrower wouldn’t be able to pay back.
“So, Governor Romney…What would you do differently?” “I would not call Timothy Geitner.” That’s it??
Ok, really. If I drink every time Cain says “9-9-9” I’m gonna be laying in a puddle of my own sick by 8:45pm.
“I thought 9-9-9 was the price of a Pizza.” Huntsman FTW.
So…wait…Huntsman thinks we shouldn’t have background checks for people who serve in the government??
Bachmann, you just lied. You just lied through your crazy-assed teeth. There is no way that the President said the answer to the Medicare problem is “Obamacare.”
“I’m really glad you asked that…but I’m not going to answer it.”
Oh, good. She asked Santorum a question. No chance that ass clown will be President. I could go get more beer.
“So Congressman Paul..Where do you come down on (The Fed)?” Was that a question that even needed to be asked?
So…according to Newt Gingrich, the people who are protesting right now are either Tea Party members or liberal activists who have no respect for personal property or any real agenda. Nice.
“Do you think it’s right that nobody on Wall Street has been held accountable?” Yeah, so what do you think the chances were that Bachmann would actually answer that question?
“Treasure Trove that America is sitting on” = “Drill, Baby, Drill”
9-9-9 plan! Drink! #econdebate
Only the economy, huh? I’ll believe that when I see it. #econdebate
Biggest disappointment of the evening, for me, was Gary Johnson. Maybe he was just overly nervous, but the guy I saw up there was nothing like the cool, calm and confident dude I heard on Wait! Wait! Don’t Tell Me! I felt bad for him, really. He looked like he didn’t even belong up there (and when you’re next to crazy like Bachmann that’s hard to pull off). Ron Paul makes some good points, as always, but I think that as it currently stands I’d like to see either Huntsman or Cain take the nomination. That being said, it’s much more likely that monkeys will decide to launch themselves out of my ass than it would be for either of them to actually get the nomination. Perry and Romney were both being juvenile and petty and acting like a couple of college frat boys who both wanted to sleep with the same sorority sister. Bachmann was a non-entity, as she should be. Gingrich continues to campaign on what he did during the Clinton administration and brings nothing new to the table. Santorum…Seriously, screw that guy. Of them all, he’s the one that I really think is the biggest asshole. I’m not just talking about his politics (which suck). I’m talking about the fact that he’s rude, whiny, disrespectful, arrogant, and downright unpleasant. There’s nothing at all likeable about the man, and I wish he’d just go away.
Thanks to all who followed along! I’m off for the evening.
And the talking heads all talk about how Romney was the winner. Clearly they watch these things through a different filter than I do.
Huntsman won that question hands down.
MATE Herman Cain and Newt Gingrich?? GAH
I just shit myself over the thought of a Santorum/Gingrich ticket.
Commercial break! Time to break out the Doritos!
And Johnson mentions his balanced budget again.
Oh, crap! The stream has died!
Blah de blah de blah. I’m Governor Perry, and this is my pre-written attack on Mitt Romney that I’ve prepared in advance.
“Give them more options to be able to have the options…of other options…” Dude…wait…What?
“And I will always err on the side of life.” Except, you know, when you are signing death warrants. Right, Gov. Perry?
Catastrophic health care policies are worthless to people with chronic illnesses, Huntsman. Fail answer.
Ok, after this question we should all be completely faced.
OBAMACARE WORD CLOUD! DRINK!
Wow. The gay soldier just got booed and Santorum goes on record as saying that Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell will be back if he’s President.
Ok…Gary Johnson is officially off my list. Oh, yeah. And new drinking game rule – When Johnson mentions his balanced budget, drink.
So is it just me or does Santorum always look like he’s about to bust into tears?
I’d give anything if Herman Cain said “The Rent is too damn high!”
The hell? What’s up with the FOX folks focusing on word clouds? Did they finally catch up to the internet of 4 years ago?
“Sometimes we’re frustrated with all of you answering questions.” WIN.
Oh, Damn. Perry sticks to his guns over educating illegal immigrants and he gets booed.
Ok, this whole Mitt vs. Rick thing is getting tired. Is it cage match time yet?
Outsource e-verify to companies who outsource all their tech support to India?
What? Bell? What the hell was that about?
Is it just me or is Rick Perry actually trying to look like Ronald Reagan?
The customer is the student, Rick.
Ugh. Gary. Ok. You’re going to submit a balanced budget in 2013. We get it.
Obamacare! Drink! Clearly Huntsman is ready for this party to start.
Ronald Reagan! Drink!
“I didn’t inhale?” Really? You’re calling back to Clinton now?
Former President? Wow. What a dick move, Mitt. Oh, by the way, answer the question.
Ooo…point to Perry on that one.
Governor Perry – Governor Romney has been hammering you. #rule34
OH GOD IT’S VOLDEMORT! HARRY! WHERE ARE YOUUUU?
Ok, so far? This thing is kinda boring me. Also? Nothing to drink over yet.
“You want to elaborate on that? You have some time.”
Restore the 10th amendment? Is it gone?
Wow. The crowd is really in favor of Cain’s 9-9-9 plan
And we’re back! Did I miss anything?
Arrgh! Power outage!
Nope. Not going to make fun of the college students that are being interviewed pre-debate. They are young and they are nervous. GOD IT’S HARD NOT TO, THOUGH.
Linkage for those of you who want to watch the debate online – http://bit.ly/nGW3Nm
Ok, it’s confirmed. The debate will be streaming live on YouTube.
Ok, I’ve got a backup plan. If the debate isn’t being broadcast live online the antenna in our bedroom is picking up the local FOX channel. This shit is ON, people.
Making lentil loaf to go with my debate watching activities. It seemed appropriate.
Well, I’ve hit the first snag in the live blogging deal. My antenna absolutely refuses to pick up the local FOX affiliate. Yeah, ok. So I guess I have a Progressive antenna or something. Hopefully the debate is being broadcast live on Fox.com. If not, this will be the worst live blog ever.
I keep promising this is going to be my last attempt to fix this, don’t I? I’m gonna get sent to Twitter Jail before I even start live blogging. Would it help if I said I really, really thought that maybe I fixed it now?
Yeah, ok….So that wasn’t entirely the last post. Sorry. I’m really done now. This is working. Maybe not quite how I wanted it to, but considering the fact that I’ve never programmed in PHP before I’m pretty happy with the results.
Bloggy bloggy live blog post. Running out of things to say to get to 140 characters. May resort to Lorum Ipsum text soon. Or, perhaps, bacon ipsum. Bacon is delicious. I miss bacon.
One more test here before I call it quits. That last link was kinda ugly, and some of the stuff I just read seemed to indicate that it might not always work. One last shot at getting it “just right”
Yeah, that didn’t do anything. Trying something different. Hopefully it will work this time. Yeah, that would be totally awesome. Have I hit 140 characters yet? Probably.
Hey, that almost worked, but the ID was for the liveblog entry and not for the actual post so the link was broken. Trying again with a different parameter. Let’s see what happens this time.
Hey all. Sorry for the pointless update, but I’m trying to see if the changes I made to the Live Blogging plugin work. If I’m successful in this, it’s going to cut this down to 110 characters and add a link back to the original post. Let’s hope it actually works.
Ok, Done playing with this for the moment. Take a look at the format and let me know what you think, gang. Thanks.
Oh. Hrm. So it appears as though it’s the Live Blogging plugin that’s disabling the Add To Any section. Ah well. I’d rather have the live updating.
Unlinked from Twitter while I play with this some more. Unfortunately it seems as though removing the Add To Any links from the live blog posts also disables it from the post itself.
Just found some code that supposedly fixes the update issue. Let’s see what happens.
Ok, well that’s lame. There’s no link back to the post if it exceeds the character limit.
So this is what happens when I tie the live blogging plugin with my Twitter account. The first 130 characters or so are posted to twitter along with a link back to the live post.
Unfortunately, it’s not auto updating on the post like it’s supposed to.
This plugin is amazeballs!
Yep. I don’t think this is going to work the way I want it to.
Will this automatically update without having to refresh the page?
This blog is so live. It’s…live-tastic.
I’m totally live blogging now.
Another test, bitches.